Sept. 27, 2023

BS High | A 50% Facts review

BS High | A 50% Facts review

Of all the documentaries we’ve reviewed, this has got to be the strangest. How does a team of supposedly high school-aged football players, who are supposedly students of a school that doesn’t really exist, end up on ESPN getting walloped by one of...

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Of all the documentaries we’ve reviewed, this has got to be the strangest. How does a team of supposedly high school-aged football players, who are supposedly students of a school that doesn’t really exist, end up on ESPN getting walloped by one of the country’s most elite prep academies?

How does a man with no experience starting a school or coaching football end up launching one of the most disturbing cons in the history of high school sports? This HBO documentary attempts to answer these questions. And while it’s not perfect, it’s an astonishing look at the forces that make high school football seem like a way out for underprivileged kids and their families and how a con artist used their dreams and vulnerabilities to recruit for a fake school -- Bishop Sycamore High.

Dean Saddoris helped us break this one down. You can find Dean on IG http://instagram.com/deansaddoris.ck and at caffeineandkilos.com

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B S high. I don't even
know where to start being high. Mutually,

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that's not my name. Ray fuck
thet. Yeah, Roy is a

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bit of a roller coaster in the
documentary, But imagine trying to deal with

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that guy in person. I don't
think it'd be that hard. I have

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no yeah, well yeah, we
have two Yeah, I don't. I

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don't think in person you realize it
because it's not he's not like all humans.

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Obviously these things edited, but then
he sat down at that interview for

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six hours and ends up self incriminating. But if you so, but if

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you deal with him in spurts,
I don't think he's weird. I think

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he's actually probably dope maybe. So
that's the only way it works. Well,

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I mean yeah, it's the only
way it works because because you can't

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be a con man without charisma,
and he's actually he's funny and he and

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and I could one one hundred percent
see those kids being like, oh yeah,

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we about that money, We about
this, you know the first fun

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fact that I just blew my brains. We'll dive into actual story, but

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that blew my brains. Is I
am g making eighty million dollars a year?

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Oh yeah? Black. Is that
coming from high school academy for I

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think it's a prep school. Yeah, it's a prep school for people who

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want to go to D one programs. Yeah, I mean prep school has

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been a thing forever, pretty started, I feel like getting really popular when

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we were in high school. A
lot of basketball players that didn't want to

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do the Juco route would kind of
go there. You had bad grades or

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bad upbringing, but you're skilled as
hell. On the West Coast, you'd

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go to a juco, especially particular
ones that they would like hide your ass

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in. I don't know how,
but like Uba City used to be one

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for basketball here. They would just
grab these like D one talents out of

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nowhere. And I'm like, how
bad are your grades that you can't go

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to any D one because you're a
fucking freak athlete. But prep school is

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super normal on the East Coast.
But eighty million a year, my man,

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they got bought and they got three
bill Yeah. My my nephews went

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to a prep school in Virginia.
And you know how in California, when

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you go to a regular California school, you're probably your high school counselor has

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already given up on you. By
the time you get get to your senior

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year. I mean maybe, but
maybe not. You know, they don't

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really know you in any specific way
or whatever. It is not like that,

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like they work with you on your
college applications. They help you keep

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to the deadlines. They help you
by contacting people through their network at the

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school you want to go to.
Private high schools out here like that.

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Probably so mine was pretty good.
But this, I mean, their placement

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rate is so high at the school
that they I won't I won't shout it

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out, but yeah, I thought, I think, I bet you like

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the Jesuits in the country days,
the school I went to, they're all

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kind of like that. Yeah yeah, yeah, Like my my my teacher

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knew exactly what school I could probably
get into. She talked about my basketball

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coach knew exactly what school I could
probably play at. Probably not she wasn't

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her son's played basketball. But it's
not like she's a recruiting agent. But

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she had a scope of where I
could play, a scope of where my

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GPA and this act and ship would
get me. Worked with me pretty good.

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Junior college I had even out here
was crazy experience like that because the

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team had a like a tutor,
and they would lock you in. They'd

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end up. You know, we
had mandatory like two hours in the library

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every day where you had to study, and she would walk around and like

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literally help you with anything you need. Like that was cool. And even

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pre school she would sit down with
you and they basically scheduled your classes for

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you because it had to fit around
sports. So she would dial all that

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in, which was really nice because
I like scheduling for school. It's because

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I did on my own afterwards when
I stopped playing. It's like such a

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pain in the ass, right,
Like what's full, what's waitlisted? How

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do you fit in the hours?
What your gees actually are like at a

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junior college, it's a fucking train
wreck. So to have that playing basketball

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that she got me all the courses
that I needed and fit them around my

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basketball schedule and made them like as
convenient as she could. I was on

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campus fucking twelve hours a day.
Yeah. The classes are all over the

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place. Yeah yeah, And so
you're fucked either way, like playing playing

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any college sport, if your school
is legitimate and made you go to class

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or high school, I guess,
because in this case, you don't go

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to class. But in most places
you have to go to class. You're

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you're on campus twelve hours a day, like you're fucked, No, you're

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they're all there. Yeah, but
I amg think blew my brains. But

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also it makes sense, like that
eighty mill though, where the fuck is

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that coming from? They have one
ESPN game, Like, so if you're

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taking sponsors, like, what's your
justification? You know, like normally your

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justification for sponsors his eyes, all
right, but you're on ESPN once or

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stadiums are filled up. Yeah,
that's true. They had big stadiums are

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filled up, And what do you
think those tickets costs? They're more than

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norm Yeah, probably fifty sixty bucks. That's what I was thinking, because

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a football game here, you're paying
ten twenty to your boosters. Going up

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there, you might be paying fifty
to one hundred, So maybe that's it.

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Yeah, their stadium's probably ten thousand
plus. It's not NFL, but

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it's probably ship Ton more than here
for sure. That's crazy though. Though

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I saw that number and I was
trying to calculate some shit in my brain,

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I'm like, I just don't get
it. I think about like,

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dude, like say that stadium's packed
fill right, and their stadiums set up

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like a college stadium, right,
Yeah, it's like a missing right,

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like a sax City stadium. It's
probably like a junior college. Yeah,

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you know, like sax City has
a great football stadium. Yeah, some

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of those or like our soccer pro
soccer team. Right, it's probably like

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anywhere from three to ten thousand people. Yeah, for prep schools. And

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you think that they probably bring in
you know, six figure concessions per game.

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Yeah, I means sales. Maybe
these people are about it all.

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They're buying all the merch for sure. If if your kids go there,

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your relative goes there, like you're
buying all the merch they're selling. They're

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probably selling millions and millions of dollars
of merch alone. Because it is a

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team of future NFL players, correct, Like it is. It is the

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all Star team. It is the
monstars. And then they're getting all the

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funding from uh past, you know, parents that are trying to get their

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kids in past, guys that were
in the NFL already, Like what do

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you think, So what do you
think it would cost? Like, say,

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your kids like pretty good and you
want to be on that team and

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they know you got money, Like, what are they going to take for

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a donation to get him on that
team even if he's not starting, Because

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what the value is of being being
attached to that school? I think we're

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talking like two hundred and fifty thousand
dollars like one. I think that line

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with at least an IMG in particular, I think that line's actually smaller than

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you think because they have to win. Yeah, but like what about but

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the only that wants to sit the
bench? And pretty good? But still

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just like Bama, you know,
like, I don't think you can pay

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your way to be on some of
those teams because they don't need you anymore.

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They don't, right, because the
best kid's gonna come and and maybe

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they'll make even the best kid pay. So I don't I don't disagree that

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maybe they're paying, but I don't
think you can sneak in no more because

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it's so competitive, it's such a
business. I wonder where the education has

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nothing to do with it. There's
there's no benefit from being attached to me,

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no scholarship prep school and you hear
about that. That's why I wonder

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if nil rules started tapping too prep
schools because prep schools is like a gray

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area between college and high school.
Like high school, you still can't get

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a sponsorship because you're not eighteen.
But I wonder if you're eighteen in high

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school and you can. Yeah,
I don't know the rules. My college.

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Now you can do whatever the fuck
you want pretty much except to pay,

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except to pay you to play.
Yeah, but you can pay you

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for anything else. Yeah. So
the dealer we're talking about IMG because it

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is the thing that this Roy dude
attempted to the model that he attempted to

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emulate. But he did not have
the money and he was and he didn't

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have the time or the talent or
the talent school. He's not a football

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coach. He really didn't have anything. He didn't have any which makes him

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so genius. Yeah, he's what
makes its own. He created one program

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that got just crapped on any out
of the not even you know, burned

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up ashes of that program started Bishop
Sycamore. Yeah, Uh, Academy of

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Christ or someone was the first name
something of. I don't know, academy,

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I see it, I see something, Yeah it was there was I

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thought it was Academy of AOC.
Yeah, Academy of Christ I don't know

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it was, so supposedly this guy
started to fill you guys in because I'd

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never heard the story, which kind
of blew online that I've never heard the

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story because I guess it was on
ESPN and SHIP, but I don't have

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ESPN. So this guy starts a
Christians of Faith Academy Christians of Faith CUF.

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So he this guy was working in
football here and there, He had

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a stint being an intern in the
NFL, etcetera, etcetera. But he

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ends up basically doing some type of
job for a church. Yea, he

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was. He was a Christian man, works for a church. Then the

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church Chris, there's air quotes around
Christian here. Wow. Yeah, I

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mean he's Christian, whether he follows
the rules, that's the world we're in.

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So he uh gets approached. It
sounds like from the school first,

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so starting a type of academy,
a real school from the church and to

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lead maybe the sports and the school
and the football team because he had some

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football past from there. Who knows
who you're going to believe? That I

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think is probably some type of fact, right. The school maybe brought it

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up in conversation, but it could
have just been up brought up in conversation

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rather than like, Hey, we're
doing this and this guy what he hear

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it is or hear it is,
we are doing this and from then on

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just sprints and basically makes his own
football prep team, switching names, living

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in hotels, stealing food, stealing, kicking the kids, steal food.

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Yeah, you are like inadvertently because
I don't think he made them. I

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just think he didn't feed them and
then they had to eat. I think

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he did tell them to steal.
I don't know if he made them,

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but my impression was that he did
tell them too. My impression from that

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was just that he wouldn't feed them
for days and they had to do something.

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Yeah, we're stuck somewhere, so
I amg Academy that is what he

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was trying to base this on is
a prep boarding school in Bradenton, Florida.

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It started off as a tennis academy
in nineteen seventy eight and then they

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added golf. Why is this always
tennis? One of the famous one is

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AIS in Australia. That's where like
all the pro athletes from the NBA and

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stuff like Patty Males, my buddy
clint A bunch of people went there.

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But I think it started as tennis
in Australia and it's similar except in Australia,

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I think the rules are a little
looser, so it's literally called like

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Australia Institute of Sport, and so
at least they're like, don't lie about

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it, Like I think you go
to class, you know, but you

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basically go to a boarding school in
high school and you're there to play basketball.

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It seems like more people who played
tennis have money, not all of

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it. That's why it starts.
But I think the same thing correct because

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it's cost so much to travel and
de tournaments. It's like you can't do

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it if you're not rich. Right. The other thing that blows my mind

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too, and it's just like on
a side concept is America. When you

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ask them culturally what's most important,
many will say sports are important, and

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some have like some legitimate foundational reasons, right, like teamwork, communication,

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physical activity, all that, which
I think is important. But they also

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just know that it's so embedded in
our culture to be athletic and to be

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the best. Yet we're the only
country that tries to hide it under the

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umbrella of education, where every other
country, they just separate them and are

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more upfront about it. Like Europe, it's super normal to go professional athlete

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and to skip high school when you're
thirteen if you're really good at basketball or

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football. You think he was going
to class, Yeah, he'd know.

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He literally signed his first pro contract
to like Barcelona when he's fifteen, and

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they just play in the juniors.
Basketball players alike, like basketball players all

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the time go professional there at Luca
I think played his first professional game in

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Europe when he was like sixteen.
Like, there's no way he's going to

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school anymore. At least they're upfront
about it and don't have to lie.

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We're here for whatever, like fake
optic moral obligation that education comes first.

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Here we lie about it. Like
why, well, because you just said

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the optics of it. Yeah,
but like why when when we already have

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said, like we don't really care
if do we care if Tom Brady has

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a geed or a high school degree, No, no, we don't.

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We should care about the people who
are on the fringes, who if they

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don't have the education and they're not
gonna make it in pro sports. Sure,

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that's I mean, that's some of
the focus, but some of it's

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like clear. But at the same
time, we don't We don't really promote

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vocational schools either, because they're not
academic. I just think that we have

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such a focus as a society on
academics, right, that's my point.

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know what we do? Yeah, I

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know it's not working. No,
I mean because it's like if it worked,

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if we prove that we're like have
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these educated work into productive jobs and
get good careers and live a good life,

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all right, then we have the
map, but like the maps not

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clear how many people have degrees or
broke as shit? So then like,

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yeah, why fake it if we
know even in the NBA you can't do

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it anymore, like you can't go
high school to the pros like Kobe and

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Kevin Garnett and them, and like, yeah, there are the sad stories

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that pop up, but there's also
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this kid's this kid's only goal or
like only chance to make it, make

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it is to be a pro athlete. So why are we going to make

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them like force him to your calculus
and kill himself in school when that's not

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what he's made for. That's a
fair point, you know, like if

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we give him the tools, he
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agree the same thing with vocation.
I think vocation was great. Like,

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all right, this kid cannot sit
down and do math. Let's teach this

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fucking kid how to cook because he
likes to cook. Like, why are

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we forcing this? Well, it's
like college, right, like like over

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and like let's say it overseas,
right or in Europe and all that's like

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there is no like general education and
it's called high school. It's like literally

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like you go to college to do
your trade or your job. It's basically

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just trade school. Yeah, because
that's what all college really kind of is,

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is trade school for maybe like a
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shit's like fucking waste of time.
It's all about money, though it should

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be high schooling You there for more
more years, to get more tuition,

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to get more money, and that's
all that's about. They don't really give

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a shit about you doing algebra again. They just know that they're gonna get

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paid for it. If our high
school is good enough, you should have

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all the ge you ever need,
correct and then you should go and learn

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something that produces money for a company
or yourself. I half the reason why

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I even dropped out of college was
because I went to college and then I

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started doing high school again, and
I'm like, well, this is not

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well. I'm not doing this'na,
I'm gonna go back to work. I

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think the problem is not really college. The problem this high school. Yeah.

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Probably we probably should be banking the
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essentially junior college. It should be. Yeah, so when you graduate from

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high school, if you've if you're
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from high school, you have a
high school diploma and you have an associate's

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degree, and then you can spend
two more years or you know whatever.

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Your your choice is getting a bachelor's
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repeat a bunch of bullshit that really, all it does is make education more

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expensive. Boy, And to talk
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like that should be their real job
is to find out what you're good at

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and what you enjoy in high school
to place you in a position to be

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successful. What's next. Yeah,
but they're not to say, like,

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hey, you can't get into Stanford. You're an idiot. It's right.

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Oh, oh, we saw that
you are really good at cooking. There's

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the chef school that's taking applicants right
now, and you'd probably do great there

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because they place a lot of people
in real restaurants. Yeah, that should

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be your job, is like to
actually consult them on how to get somewhere.

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I think maybe a part of the
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is hard for teenagers, even kind
of late teenagers, to come up with

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realistic goals and feel like they know
where they want to go. But that

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can all be fixed. If we're
vamp on the program, then you have

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exposure to more jobs, you have
exposure to more activities, you have exposure

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to like like even here, we
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in and they have something called Exploration
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it anymore, but it's basically a
week where you go do a job.

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And so the kid's gonna come in
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He's a senior in high school.
It gets an idea of what running

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a gym actually is because everyone thinks
you're gonna be doing curls all day.

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Sorry, buddy, you're gonna be
cleaning toilets with sea bass all day.

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I guess that's what running a gym
ass. Yeah, you know, And

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so like you get an actual and
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followed a lawyer around, a great
lawyer, really cool guy who was excelm

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and he took me to like crime
scenes. He took me into court each

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of these they was sick. He
drove me. He drew me down to

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the hood. He said, yeah, man, we had a gang fight

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here and this is this is a
case I handled that was a shoot off.

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And he's like showing me around.
People were looking at us like crazy

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and like but he's like, but
I have to come here, and so

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shit, you know. But like
I got a real taste of what he

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does. Yeah, not what you
probably thought it was originally. Right.

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had no schooling at all. Yeah,

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there was there was no academic program, there was no facility, there was

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no attempt. There was no attempt. There was no They were supposed to

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be feeding these these folks, and
they were doing it so intermittently because there

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was no money. He was smart
though, right, So this cat would

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call the grocery store ordered twenty rotisserie
chickens at noon twenty five or whatever.

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Yeah, and not not not pick
them up right and then come back eight

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hours later when he knew they were
on discount of grab him for a buck

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genius. I never even knew they
had discounted him, Like, I didn't

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even know you could order him like
that. I just thought what was there

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was there, and that's only good, like one that's only works one time,

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though, right or one st man, Yeah, you're just hopping costs?

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How many times you think he actually
did that? Though? I don't

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know. I don't know. It's
a good story whether or not it's I

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believe it. It's wholly true.
I bet you it's pretty true. And

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then you, yeah, he found
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I just don't. I'm still honestly
like, I feel like I was very

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confused for how he got away with
all this shit, how he continues to

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get out with it, and how
he's like still thinks he's gonna keep going.

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That part's actually insane. Well he's
literally insane. No he is.

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But I'm telling you, sociopath.
I've met people and I'll mention an affair

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because one that I know is like
this, you guys aren't thinking. But

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I've met people like this that are
literally they just take the scammiest way,

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even though the scammiest way is harder
than doing things legitimately harder and less sustainable.

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people I know people that will take
this scammy way because they think they're getting

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one up and they think it's easier
because they think it's easy, but it's

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actually fucking harder. They got to
keep up with all that all that ship.

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They say, what's the quote like, if you always tell the truth,

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you never have to remember. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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that's that's that's that's the thing.
I just don't So basically what he did,

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what he did wasn't illegal, which
is apparently not, which is crazy,

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like, but they're they're they're probably
is loopholes in the legality that they

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didn't touch on, like taking kids
out of schools illegal but they didn't have

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a school to go to. They
did have their public school. Yeah,

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but now they were out, so
like making some some some for sure,

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we're twenty five, but but taking
a underage person out of school is illegal.

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They didn't even talk about that being
illegal or not. What they talked

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about is making a fake school is
not illegal, which he did. Yeah,

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okay, but then all the other
things are illegal, right, like

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the and he did get charged for
the hotel fines and all his all his

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money laundering type shit. That's obviously
ill. But what the OHSA couldn't get

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him for wasn't illegal. But but
taking a seventeen year old out of school

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and promising them they're going to school
is illegal. Yeah, he made it

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seem like he tried to save himself. He's like he tried to explain himself,

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like these kids had nowhere to go. I gave them a place to

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go. What's wrong with me?
Right? And it's like, well,

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you fucking lied to them, led
to their parents, led to their parents,

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You had no money, you had
no skill or knowledge of the sport

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of football. Obviously it's hindsight,
but to see some of the kids interviews

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was really sad because it felt so
authentic, like, oh that was sad.

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The the grown ass men too,
you know, and they're like this

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one kid said like I've never cried
before, and he's fucking yeah. I

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felt so bad for Yeah, that
sucks. But the scene where where this

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royal guy and the other coach or
why watching the video of this guy just

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breaking down, it's like, basically, you destroyed my life. Well,

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number one, you can revive your
life. It's just not going to be

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what you think it was going to
be. You're not gonna you're not gonna

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play in the NFL, or do
you want already wasn't going it already wasn't

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going. But he was given false
hope. Correct, he was given a

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lot of false hope. And and
they are unfazed, particularly that roy guy

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is fucking almost laughing, like mad
at it and then mad and then yeah,

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it's like, oh, we did
so much for him. It's like

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apparently you didn't. Like I mean, there's if If that's the case,

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if you did that much for him, then there's a whole bunch of the

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story that we're not being told or
that you didn't tell. I think the

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problem with you know, uh,
sociopaths, narcissists like like this guy is

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that is that he's convinced himself though
that he was helping them, when in

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reality we all know like he's this
was all a ploy for him to become

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famous and to be in the spotlight. Like he's always wanted, but he's

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convinced himself that he was helping these
people by lying to them and giving them

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a fucking shitty hotel room to stay
in that he wasn't paying for. It's

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like, no, you weren't helping
anybody. You were just inconveniencing these people.

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They weren't helping anyone you were.
You were kind of giving this like

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job of keeping them somewhat alive at
the most minimal level, and like giving

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them this like dream that's not real, Like that's not helping anyone. You're

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actually like not helping anything. Any
eviction notices and eviction filings being actually on

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the kids names. Yeah, he
was using their names. And then the

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whole fucking p PP loan shit.
Yeah crazy, Yeah that part. So

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the beginning of this did seem like
Disneyland scam, like very like minimal all

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right, I'm gonnake him out of
school, I'm gonna lie, We're gonna

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go win some football games. And
then you start to dive in and that

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he's getting paid, that he's making
these kids pay him, although he's saving

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their life from the hood and he's
making their parents take out loan. Oh

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you can't pay for their schooling,
don't worry about it. There's these things

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PPP loans and you can pay me
with that. How much money did this

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motherfucker make from this? He's saying
he made none. He had to write

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like if he made every kid pay
twelve k from loans into his pocket and

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then he's not paying the hotels,
he's not paying the food, like he

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had to make money somewhere. Well. I think that's where I was confused,

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Like they kind of talked about these
things and never like proved or disproved,

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like if those those PP loans went
through or if you got him,

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like they just never like followed up
on that. But he and the kids

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that have to share helmets. But
he's got a brand new Nike drive fit

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with his logo on it. Where
was he? Like what was it?

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Okay? I kind of got confused, Like it was like I was like

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kind of with the kids, and
like it was on what was the part

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with the life insurance policies at the
very beginning, I think one hundred thousand

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dollars life insurancy policy the church was
doing or something that they were getting a

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ton of money from at the very
beginning, so the church ran a scam.

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It sounded like that you would take
out a life insurance policy and part

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of the payment that would normally go
to your spouse or kids when you died,

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they would have you, which actually, isn't that scammy? Like if

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you really believe in your church and
community that you would take a percentage of

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that and put it in your trust, that it would go to the church.

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So basically, and that's I think
that's kind of normal. Maybe it's

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normal for church stuff or like or
even rich people, right, like if

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they're like, if they're really about
drunk driving, So I would make my

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life insurance go, you know,
sixty percent to my kids and forty percent

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to the research of cancer or something
like. I think that's kind of normal.

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It's just that it was being run
by scam artists that make it felt

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really bad. So then okay,
so right, and then I think that's

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what they did. And then he
was getting some of that money for this

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team. I think then that ran
out really quick because that only lasts that

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in relationship lasted like what six months? Yeah, because the church cut him

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off quickly because they realized they were
doing Yeah, I don't know, man,

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he's then he hit the end of
the interview, and obviously it's edited,

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so who knows if it was actually
the end of the interview or they

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just put it the movie. He
goes on like a joker thing. He's

391
00:24:56.960 --> 00:25:00.039
like laughing with his eyes all a
little bow and his man's big smile.

392
00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:03.119
Yeah. He's like, oh,
but you're talking about me. More TVs

393
00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:06.359
on the way, more kids are
gonna be helped, And I'm like,

394
00:25:06.440 --> 00:25:08.720
bro, you're fucking do you think
anybody's gonna go to your school? He's

395
00:25:08.880 --> 00:25:14.160
somewhere, he's somewhere between and this
isn't as racially is it my sound,

396
00:25:14.200 --> 00:25:18.839
but he's somewhere between get out and
fucking joke. Yeah, he's fucking yeah

397
00:25:18.279 --> 00:25:22.119
yeah. And he's like, oh, Michael Stranghand called me and yeah,

398
00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:25.480
yeah, yeah, my big plans. You thought I lost, But I'm

399
00:25:25.519 --> 00:25:33.039
friends with Michael Strahand. He's so
yeah. Michael Strahan's production company was involved

400
00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:41.839
in this, Yeah, along with
obviously the director's Trayvon Free and Martin Desmond

401
00:25:41.920 --> 00:25:48.400
Row, Adam McKay's Hyper Object Industries, Spencer Payger's Mortgage or More More Street

402
00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:55.359
Productions, Boat Rocker Media, and
the Athletic produced this documentary for HBO Sports,

403
00:25:55.480 --> 00:26:00.839
So he was he's so delusional that
he set like straight the straighthand relationship

404
00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:04.200
is gonna like project him. He's
gonna end up on ESPN Sports Center with

405
00:26:04.319 --> 00:26:10.920
us. You never even you were
using kids were making up place from Madden

406
00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:15.000
on the field. That is so
insane, which is like, probably not

407
00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:18.279
that crazy because Madden probably uses real
plays. They do, but the point

408
00:26:18.359 --> 00:26:22.160
is, like, you're not a
coach. Yeah they have. I wish

409
00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:25.799
they would have touched more on the
fact that he had zero experience coaching.

410
00:26:25.839 --> 00:26:27.720
Yeah, like they kind of did, but it's like how they even run

411
00:26:27.720 --> 00:26:30.640
a single play? He's do you
have other guys on the team that maybe

412
00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:33.119
knew how to coach, like or
like his assistant coach seemed like he was

413
00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:37.200
an offensive coordinator something right when the
kids were getting fun this isn't funny,

414
00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:41.519
but like, but it is not
the kids getting hurt is isn't what's funny,

415
00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:45.519
but like the fact that like the
kids got hurt on that game,

416
00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:48.799
like against these grown man and then
they had no medical staff. It's his

417
00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:53.720
wife, mom was out there like
yeah, and even the announcers were starting

418
00:26:53.720 --> 00:26:57.279
to say, like this because not
looking good or safe anymore. You're like,

419
00:26:57.759 --> 00:27:02.119
and they touch on that as the
documentary, like when the announcers can't

420
00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:04.519
fake it anymore, that these kids
are I mean, they're they're actually grown

421
00:27:04.519 --> 00:27:07.720
man getting beat up by boys,
which makes it all even funnier and worse.

422
00:27:07.839 --> 00:27:11.440
Yeah, sad about funnier and worse, Like they're getting beat up by

423
00:27:11.480 --> 00:27:17.160
sixteen year olds. If you were
really trying to do this in a legitimate

424
00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:21.680
way, you would have to have, Like starting any business, you can

425
00:27:21.720 --> 00:27:26.559
need a minimum viable product. He
did not have a minimum viable product.

426
00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:29.920
Well, because he didn't have to
have any money. Yeah, well he

427
00:27:29.960 --> 00:27:32.279
didn't have like a skill. Like
the first thing I'm doing when I'm trying

428
00:27:32.279 --> 00:27:34.279
to start this is I'm either going
to become the best football coach I can

429
00:27:34.359 --> 00:27:37.160
as myself, or I'm going to
hire the best football coach I know.

430
00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:41.799
Right, that's step one, because
then we have something to recruit with and

431
00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:45.400
we have a product because I have
trust that this coach can whip some players

432
00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:48.119
into shape and we can get somewhere. Right, So, like his step

433
00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:53.720
one was like get a get an
architect to make a one billion dollar rendering

434
00:27:53.799 --> 00:27:57.119
of a stud of a campus.
Yeah, that was his step one.

435
00:27:57.200 --> 00:28:00.279
Yeah, like, how do we
look cool? Any that was never gonna

436
00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:03.400
happen? Yeah, how do we
look cool? I don't know if you

437
00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:06.400
have I AMG money. Well,
the thing is that I AMG didn't start

438
00:28:06.440 --> 00:28:08.359
with football, no, for sure, but even still like it took it

439
00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:14.079
was into two thousand's I think or
the nineties at least before they started doing

440
00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:15.960
football at all. Yeah, but
they probably had big money backers. Oh

441
00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:18.200
yeah, I'm sure that they didn't
they Yeah, exactly, they had an

442
00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:22.799
investors, like the business models like
been proven, like there is there is

443
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:26.599
like but they probably bottom powered,
real coach, real, they had,

444
00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:30.400
real facility, had years to build
up how the program was going to work,

445
00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:34.599
and start started early recruiting before they
ever played their first game. This

446
00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:40.319
guy was driving around neighborhoods picking up
kids off the street essentially. Yeah,

447
00:28:40.359 --> 00:28:44.119
which he did. Like even in
that like isn't the worst part either,

448
00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:47.400
right, because like there is potential
kids out there that like can't stay in

449
00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:51.240
school but are talented athletes. You
know, like there's ways to recruit like

450
00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:53.599
that. And you've heard like dream
stories even like the blind Side, right,

451
00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:56.920
Like I know that just took a
turn, but it took a dark

452
00:28:57.000 --> 00:29:00.160
term. But it's also like a
non surprise turn, no for sure,

453
00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:03.400
because that even the movie alludes to
it. Yeah, I was kind of

454
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:07.039
like the story in the movie alludes
to it, and then in the movie

455
00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:10.039
he lies about it and covers them
up. But obviously there's some truth there.

456
00:29:10.119 --> 00:29:12.359
But the point is that it's just
a big old kid, really athletic,

457
00:29:12.440 --> 00:29:17.119
not great academy academics, and he
finds a place in football, you

458
00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:19.079
know, So like there there are
stories and truths to that. And I've

459
00:29:19.079 --> 00:29:22.720
known guys growing up that just literally
would skip school all there, you know,

460
00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:25.640
like the typical story, they're just
skip school all the day, but

461
00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:29.440
they're crazy athletes. So like recruiting
all that like is like some of the

462
00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:33.079
smart stuff he did, you know
what I mean? Because the other kids

463
00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:36.200
that are in the system are already
they're the tim Tebows, They're they're already

464
00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:38.960
going to IMG, they're already getting
recruited by USC. If you're if you're

465
00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:44.960
looking for underdog talent, maybe he's
on something or just misplaced Yeah, just

466
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:49.880
misplaced talent. Okay, But how
hard is it to recruit degenerate kids like

467
00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:53.640
and promising them this fucking dream that
doesn't exist. I think easy when you

468
00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:56.960
tell him, when you're talking to
a sixteen year old, you say,

469
00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:59.240
you ain't got to go to class. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

470
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:02.480
You can go to a D one
school. Yeah. I think that part's

471
00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:06.400
easy. It's sad, very Uh
So he didn't really have any skills.

472
00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:08.119
He was just a liar. Yeah, he was a salesman. Yeah,

473
00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:11.759
but at least like some salesman are
actually selling real products and I have like

474
00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:15.480
real like you don't it just because
your salesman doesn't mean you're a con artist.

475
00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:21.079
If he if he had a moral
compass and wasn't, he probably has

476
00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:25.480
true narcissistic personality disorder. If he
doesn't have that, he's probably a really

477
00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:29.720
good salesman, because the only thing
that makes a good salesman bast salesman is

478
00:30:29.839 --> 00:30:33.839
like your skill of talking to people
would thrive in like in a legit scenario.

479
00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:36.440
That's what I mean. If he
was like if you're selling cars and

480
00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:37.519
he had a moral compass, ye, he'd probably be the best car salesman

481
00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:41.160
on the planet. Yeah. Here's
I didn't see this in the in the

482
00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:45.400
in the show and I just read
it now, and it's so ironic.

483
00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:48.880
The only class that they took,
that they offered that the kids had to

484
00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:56.759
take. Only class was a religious
class taught by him. Nice fucking up

485
00:30:56.759 --> 00:31:00.839
their moral compass too. Yeah knows
what he told them, but you know

486
00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:07.079
it. Oh, we didn't even
the fact that he ran over those uh

487
00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:11.640
the birds in the street as like
a lesson and yeah he says like,

488
00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:12.599
oh, yeah, well I hit
a bird and turn it to a lesson.

489
00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:15.920
Meanwhile, the kids like, no, he was going in reverse,

490
00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:18.640
like he was running it over multiple
times. He said a burden. The

491
00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:22.640
kids like, no, it was
a flock of birds, ran them over,

492
00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:26.079
and then backed back into all crazy
people. Shit, that's joker ship.

493
00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:30.400
Yeah he's a psycho. Yeah,
that's joker shit. He's weird.

494
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:33.640
Bro. I don't know how this
story and maybe it was big news and

495
00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:36.519
I was just living under a rock
here at the gym, but I feel

496
00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:38.000
like it didn't make that big a
national news because it really was. It

497
00:31:38.119 --> 00:31:42.319
was excuse me, twenty twenty one, Yeah, that is ESPN game.

498
00:31:42.599 --> 00:31:45.400
Yeah, and obviously yeah, he
started in like twenty nineteen. This feels

499
00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:48.640
like a Barbara Walters sit down with
a psycho interview. That's what it should

500
00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:52.880
be. Yeah, Like I want
Barbara Walters to fucking grill this guy.

501
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:56.799
I'm shocked that we weren't seeing like
the whites of his eyes above the iris,

502
00:31:56.960 --> 00:32:00.279
you know that. Yeah, he's
that crazy dude. When the poor

503
00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:05.400
guy with them too, like like
is he fucked up or is he just

504
00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:07.559
like bought in? I mean,
because you can't really blame the kids either

505
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:13.319
or the videographer, but you kind
of can. The videographers should have figured

506
00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:19.519
it out. The only reason that
the videographers did not do more, I

507
00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:24.559
think is because videographers in that circumstance
never expect to make any money. It's

508
00:32:24.599 --> 00:32:28.440
like you're trying to make a project
that will get you money in the future.

509
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:30.359
But then it was the biggest contract
ever. Yeah, and they don't

510
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:36.880
expect to get They don't expect to
get actual like a claim or anything.

511
00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:38.079
I think. I think if you
don't have that contract, you do.

512
00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:40.920
Yeah. But they said they had
a contract with them for the biggest pay

513
00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:44.079
the day they've ever had, but
they never got it. So they never

514
00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:45.359
got it. They got no I
know, I know, but three thousand

515
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:50.920
dollars of the whole thing or something
like that. Sixty. But how you're

516
00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:54.319
talking is like is what they expect
going in like as volunteer work, but

517
00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:59.920
they went in being pitched a contract. Yeah, that's so much different mentality.

518
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:02.359
Well, that's why I'm saying,
like I do blame them in some

519
00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:07.160
sense. My point is, though, when you promise something, trust me,

520
00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:09.279
I have experience on this. When
you promise something and it doesn't come

521
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:14.640
through, you think, well,
maybe maybe it's me, Maybe I should

522
00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:19.279
never have believed it. Maybe it's
me I didn't didn't bring enough to the

523
00:33:19.319 --> 00:33:23.240
table, or maybe this is just
how it is when you're when you do

524
00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:25.799
this kind of job, sometimes you
just get screwed, you know, I

525
00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:30.799
don't know. I just don't.
I from experience, like videographers don't necessarily

526
00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:36.400
have the greatest self esteem to pull
themselves out of shitty situation. Is definitely

527
00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:38.440
a common thing I've seen, like
personally through like this. Being in any

528
00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:44.839
industry of fitness, you see a
lot of people trying to make content from

529
00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:46.839
that, right, and you see
a lot of people working hard to like

530
00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:50.680
working in my working my way up
is just like something that's gonna pay off

531
00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:52.519
like down the road, is that
you're kind of saying, Yeah, that's

532
00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:57.559
what I'm saying. It is funny
that in twenty twenty, the second piece

533
00:33:57.640 --> 00:34:01.880
to building a legendary football team is
a content team. Yeah right. It's

534
00:34:01.880 --> 00:34:06.240
not a personal trainer. It's not
a fucking quarterback coach, it's not a

535
00:34:06.279 --> 00:34:09.599
fucking running back coach. It's not
anything to do with a product. Again,

536
00:34:09.800 --> 00:34:14.840
it's like, how do we just
film bad football? Yeah? Yeah,

537
00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:16.119
we have bad football? But how
do we film it? How do

538
00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:20.400
we make dope Instagram clip? Yeah, their little hype videos, we're pretty

539
00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:23.360
good. They weren't bad. And
that's just like such like the capsule of

540
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:27.599
where we're at in the world right
now, and I hate it, right,

541
00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:30.039
Like, well, well, we're
not good at anything. We're not

542
00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:32.840
going anywhere. We have no product
to sell, give or show off.

543
00:34:34.119 --> 00:34:37.039
But let's film whatever bullshit we do
have and get some likes. How do

544
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:39.920
we get likes from the bullshit we
have? Rather than like, how do

545
00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:45.400
we build a really fucking sick football
team and then our highlights will come?

546
00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:51.599
Like that's that's literally our culture.
He went to the literally the he went

547
00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:57.480
to the most extreme angle on everything
possible. Yeah, like as like as

548
00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:02.000
far as like lying in perception right, the whole like the school not being

549
00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:07.480
real, right, the videos of
the worst football ever played film to look

550
00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:08.639
good, you know what I mean, Like you just went to like the

551
00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:15.360
fakest level possible on everything to where
all together, if you looked at it,

552
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:17.159
you're like, there's no way this
could be fake, because how could

553
00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:22.320
someone fake all of this? But
he somehow figured out how to fake everything.

554
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:24.880
I do wonder what he's insane?
What the actual talent of the kids

555
00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:28.800
were, because like even in the
you know, the end of the dock

556
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:30.639
and the end of the movie,
they always say where the kids are at

557
00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:32.920
now? And some are still like
chasing their football dream if like maybe they

558
00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:37.760
were like decent and just of them
got some college. Yeah, one one's

559
00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:40.519
playing in Louisville. Louisville is not
a joke if you walk on louis Yeah,

560
00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:43.599
I mean that's legitimate. And even
the other kids are like, oh,

561
00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:45.079
they're still like chasing their football dreams, so they can't be bad.

562
00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:47.599
Yeah, what does that mean?
Though? Like the kid was working at

563
00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:52.079
like at a at a meat meat
butchers shop and he's like chasing his football

564
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:54.480
game, Like what is he doing? Is he playing? Yeah? Working

565
00:35:54.480 --> 00:35:59.159
out. But either way he's making
meat footballs can beat footballs. Is he

566
00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:04.440
can become like some kind of like
meat cake company, you know, is

567
00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:08.039
the vocational school. Maybe he's tapping
him, but but like they're probably good.

568
00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:12.079
That's my point is that like maybe
this plan is only missing a couple

569
00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:15.519
of puzzle pieces. Obviously a psycho
leaders not one we need. But if

570
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:17.159
you have like a real football coach, maybe this team can play. You

571
00:36:17.199 --> 00:36:21.079
don't have two kids go to Louisville. We we don't have. We have

572
00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:23.599
very few schools here in Zach that
have that, and we have good football

573
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:27.239
here. Yeah, like two kids
going to a big D one school is

574
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:30.079
big, and it also was pulling
from a big talented area, right that.

575
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:36.000
Ohio football is like a real like
like high school football is. Those

576
00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:37.719
kids have been playing for a long
time, probably pretty good. I went

577
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:40.079
to one of my dad's friends kids. I know, it's a stretch,

578
00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:45.239
Dad's really good friends kids game ten
years ago or fifteen years ago, I

579
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:46.960
don't even know, and it felt
like remember the fucking Titans, bro.

580
00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:51.599
The whole city's out there. We're
like some suburb a little bit deep from

581
00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:55.639
Cleveland, but it's fucking shut down. It's about the size of one of

582
00:36:55.639 --> 00:37:00.199
our junior college fields. There's probably, yeah, a thousand people there and

583
00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:05.599
it's fucking fire man like people were
in jerseys and ship paint, face paint.

584
00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:07.519
Yeah, it was crazy. It's
it's a real deal out there.

585
00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:10.360
There's talent everywhere, for sure.
Yeah, there's talent everywhere. But then

586
00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:15.159
that kind of that fucked up story
with the quarterback kid got suicidal. Yeah,

587
00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:20.679
and then then he got a got
a scholarship and they got taken away

588
00:37:20.719 --> 00:37:23.559
because of this motherfucker. Yeah,
dude, that was that was really sad.

589
00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:27.880
So like, did that mean that
like he was ineligible because he didn't

590
00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:30.079
because either that because of that.
I don't understand that. That doesn't That

591
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:32.480
didn't make sense to me, probably
just NC two A rules and ship.

592
00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:36.559
But it's like, okay, but
dude, this guy was a scam artist.

593
00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:38.199
He fucked up. Like there's no
way they could like just look past

594
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:42.079
that. I know it. It's
up to the school, right or it

595
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:45.239
might it might be n so he
never got to play, Yeah, maybe

596
00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:47.239
not, or he has to wait
an extra year. I don't know,

597
00:37:47.320 --> 00:37:51.679
maybe both. Oh man, I
know it doesn't I didn't understand that that

598
00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:54.840
what the outcome was there. I
think the last screens show what they're what

599
00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:58.639
they were doing, But I don't
remember what his deal. I think they

600
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:00.760
went back to him, now they
didn't. I I was kind of looking

601
00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:01.480
for it, and I don't think
they mentioned. No. I don't think

602
00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:05.239
they mentioned him. At the very
very end. It sounded like he just

603
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:08.519
lost his closed career. We didn't
get to see any one of these kids

604
00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:13.199
play well ever. Yeah, and
the whole thing that might have been like

605
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:15.880
on purpose, right, That's that's
I guess it was my point of like,

606
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:17.119
some of these kids were good.
Part of the editor, part of

607
00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:21.320
the edit the story is that how
bad they were, but they probably weren't

608
00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:24.079
that bad. They get a first
down on that first play against that and

609
00:38:24.360 --> 00:38:28.719
they lost one hundred to zero on
the best team in the world. Yeah,

610
00:38:28.719 --> 00:38:30.800
Like I've lost by forty points in
high school to like the best team

611
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:34.079
in California. Like, you know, you get shit on, and I

612
00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:37.639
was good. I'm not an NBA. Yea, there's levels of the ship,

613
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:40.079
Okay, I mean the Cowboys won
by like almost forty fifty. Yeah.

614
00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:44.039
If you've never got shited on,
you've just never played freaks. Yeah,

615
00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:46.719
Yeah, that's anyone listening. That's
anyone fucking listening. You've just and

616
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:50.079
and people said, like dude,
when we lost by forty, Like yeah,

617
00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:53.159
the entire roster starting five had d
one offers. Yes, I got

618
00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:59.199
shit on the point guard started to
have one he started at University Kentucky,

619
00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:02.840
Like yeah, I got fucking man
handled. Can't we talk for a second

620
00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:08.239
about the fact that that the the
guy who scheduled their games felt like he

621
00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:12.760
was still bought in in something.
That's kind of what I was bringing up

622
00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:16.719
when I brought up the assistant coach
and the filmographers and that guy, like

623
00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:22.280
you have to hold some responsibility for
being duped that guy, Yeah, what

624
00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:24.360
what? Why would you just pitch
these games to a school that's been around

625
00:39:24.360 --> 00:39:29.239
a year yeah, and has no
track record? Like why why are you

626
00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:31.679
the matchmaker for a team? They
should have to have some kind of proof

627
00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:35.840
of concept. And that's I guess
I don't I think I read this,

628
00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:39.639
but maybe it was in the dock
that a lot of them have trouble finding

629
00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:43.880
teams to play because they're too good
or nobody wants to just like get theirs

630
00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:46.599
that could that could be they want
to save face save the protect the record,

631
00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:51.840
So all that is important, you
know, only going baseball on my

632
00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:53.920
experience as a coach and as a
player, because we were at a very

633
00:39:53.960 --> 00:39:57.400
small school where I was at,
but we were pretty good. So we

634
00:39:57.480 --> 00:40:00.880
could show up to a D two
D three school and we played him in

635
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:06.599
summer league and a couple in season
and we'd win. You as the big

636
00:40:06.639 --> 00:40:12.360
school never you, choosing your who
your opponent is is very important because you

637
00:40:12.400 --> 00:40:15.280
don't want to lose to some little
bum fuck because your record shot and obviously

638
00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:19.400
IMG's like top top dog, but
like there's a lot of schools in Sack

639
00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:23.000
that wouldn't play us in the regular
season because even if we if we pull

640
00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:28.480
an upset, your season's gone.
Yeah, you know, so like having

641
00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:32.599
a at that level, having a
matchmaker or whatever that guy's aficial battle makes

642
00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:36.880
sense. That makes sense because we
don't have that here. Here. It's

643
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:38.559
your head coach calling a head coach
and trying to convince them, Hey man,

644
00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:42.480
you want to schedule game for December. Yeah, my team's pretty decent

645
00:40:42.519 --> 00:40:45.199
this year, but we're not great. So let me ask you this question,

646
00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:46.320
because I don't know the answer to
it, and things may not even

647
00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:53.360
be the same now, but in
high school basketball, are are in conference

648
00:40:53.400 --> 00:41:00.920
and out of conference games counted differently, I think, so, I know,

649
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:04.039
I think they're it's kind of like
a BCS ranking because then at the

650
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:07.480
end of the season, at least
historically I haven't coached in eight years,

651
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:12.159
ten years, but historically that head
coaches would have a meeting at the end

652
00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:15.280
of the season of the section and
the people that are going to the section

653
00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:19.760
and kind of give a power ranking
discussion. You'd you'd basically lay on the

654
00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:22.039
ground. Hey, you know,
if I'm the coach of my school,

655
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:25.719
hogwarts say hey, we beat this
amount of teams, these teams had these

656
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:29.079
records, this is why I think
I should be ranked in the top five.

657
00:41:29.400 --> 00:41:30.599
And you'd come in, hey,
I well, we beat these teams

658
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:35.760
preseason and regular season. This team's
you know, do you one playoffs and

659
00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:39.159
we won and you make like a
like a kind of a judicial argument of

660
00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:42.639
where you should be ranked. And
then I think it's a voting system.

661
00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:46.199
Maybe there might be a BCS and
maybe that's even just for conference and then

662
00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:52.639
here the CIAF to California whatever.
In the saqua Quin Section, those people

663
00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:55.440
would have a board that would take
your conference and then their conference and they

664
00:41:55.519 --> 00:42:00.440
build like a whole BCS power ranking. Okay, yeah, so they do,

665
00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:02.000
they do. They do. Both
matter just as much here. Okay,

666
00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:06.199
yeah. I feel like in football, at least when I was,

667
00:42:06.320 --> 00:42:07.920
you know, a long time ago, some games didn't matter at all and

668
00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:10.639
some games absolutely matter. So you
could call him a scrimmage. If you

669
00:42:10.760 --> 00:42:14.519
call it a scrimmage, now it's
not on record, so that would happen

670
00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:16.559
too. It's the same with summer
league. Like Monterey Trails a huge school

671
00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:20.079
here, they wouldn't play us in
season because we put it on him in

672
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:22.079
a summer league, you know,
like, well, why are they going

673
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:24.639
to go play hogwarts in the season
and make like offseason, who gives a

674
00:42:24.639 --> 00:42:28.719
shit, it's just a workout.
But in season now our records shot.

675
00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:31.239
It's kind of weird too though,
because you think about it in terms of

676
00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:36.159
games, but it's really more gamesmanship. It's like which games are you willing

677
00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:38.239
to play? Kind of especially at
this high IMG level. That's why without

678
00:42:38.280 --> 00:42:42.639
this matchmaker, they never take this
game. Right. This matchmaker must have

679
00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:46.519
had a really good he got BST
real hard, he got bs really hard,

680
00:42:46.559 --> 00:42:52.840
but he must have a really good
history of trust that they didn't wipe

681
00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:55.360
him out in the process. That
too, But why why would I I

682
00:42:55.400 --> 00:42:58.880
AMG even listen to him in the
first place, That's my point, Like

683
00:42:58.880 --> 00:43:01.880
you must have he must have like
a long track record of trust. Yeah,

684
00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:07.880
it's just crazy that they picked that
game and that team like that,

685
00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:12.800
that that that that Hall of Fame
game, like of all the teams that

686
00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:15.400
have wanted to play that team.
Yeah, they fucking picked this Bishop,

687
00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:19.679
Bishop Sycamore. That's what I'm saying, Tom, That's just crazy. It's

688
00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:22.079
had to be this matchmaker who got
duped really hard. Ye, who must

689
00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:28.480
have had the best track record and
reputation of of of trust. Like every

690
00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:31.800
coach in major prep school in high
school must trust this matchmaker guy because no

691
00:43:31.800 --> 00:43:36.360
one's doing that because then the ESPN
trusted them, right, like everyone trusted

692
00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:38.719
IMG in this matchmaker, right.
Ain't nobody trusting a brand new school.

693
00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:43.639
This game was early in the season. They had only played one game,

694
00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:46.039
but it was their second six days
before. But no, oh, there

695
00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:52.119
was one before that, but the
matchmaker guy didn't know anything about. Yes,

696
00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:58.960
yeah, that they were gonna play
a game a day like not two

697
00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:01.920
days before. But it sis's first
season. It was their second season,

698
00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:05.559
but they only played three games in
their first season. Yeah, yeah,

699
00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:07.840
I don't know. It was literally
just a match They never won a game.

700
00:44:07.159 --> 00:44:10.360
They never won a game. It
was just a matchmaker. I mean,

701
00:44:10.760 --> 00:44:15.159
they're like in wrestling, they're kind
of a jobber, right, Yeah,

702
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:19.519
but I mean what must have happened
is you whip out a one one

703
00:44:19.599 --> 00:44:24.639
sheet fucking marketing thing BS brand new
up and coming school, uh likeliness to

704
00:44:24.760 --> 00:44:28.880
IMG likeliness to all these schools,
and you have a picture rendering of your

705
00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:30.719
stadium and you send that to the
matchmaker, and the matchmaker believes you,

706
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:34.800
and then the matchmaker sends that to
ESPN, and ESPN just read your resume

707
00:44:34.920 --> 00:44:37.360
like, oh, brand new school, similar to I am I AMG.

708
00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:40.519
All right, Well, the one
guy said, the rules are not more

709
00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:45.079
specific because you don't think that someone's
gonna right just like, you know,

710
00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:47.800
do an end run on him.
Yeah, who's gonna make a fake school?

711
00:44:49.159 --> 00:44:52.880
Yeah, they're exactly. There wasn't
rules, but if you hear I

712
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:57.760
AMG makes eighty million, it's very
likely to make a fake school. Well,

713
00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:00.480
I think it also like when the
guy was also so confused about while

714
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:05.079
there's not Russ because it's like no
one benefits from that. It just him

715
00:45:05.400 --> 00:45:08.519
like a MG money But but like
no, but no one's gonna pay to

716
00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:13.360
go there. If they watch,
you just get obliterated long term, get

717
00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:15.960
hurt long term for sure. But
if those p P peelos went through,

718
00:45:16.119 --> 00:45:20.320
what there's fifty kids on a high
school football team and they're he's paying twelve

719
00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:22.360
k and you're not paying anything.
That's a lot of That's a lot of

720
00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:25.280
income. All those kid all those
kids, has all those kids social Security

721
00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:30.000
numbers? Yeah, yeah, reepy
and yet home addresses and all of that.

722
00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:32.559
Yeah, all that. That's where
it got all dark. In the

723
00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:35.599
beginning, it was like, all
right, this guy's an idiot and he

724
00:45:35.639 --> 00:45:38.760
wants to put together a Mighty Ducks
style fucking Disney football team, you know

725
00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:40.280
what I mean. That sort of
felt like I was like, Okay,

726
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:43.480
this could be cool. This guy
means well, and then you go st

727
00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:45.760
security, then you go you know, and then he gets real fu he

728
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:47.840
starts beating up his girlfriend, yeah
in front of them, Yeah, killing

729
00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:50.960
geese for no reason with the bus. Now you're like, all right,

730
00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:53.559
this guy's actually just the joker.
Yeah, I thought it was Mighty Ducks.

731
00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:57.199
Dude, he thought it was you
thought he had the Bash bros.

732
00:45:57.320 --> 00:46:00.440
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he
recruited off the street. Yeah, he

733
00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:07.679
recruited the fucking knuckle puck kid off
the street too, Goldberg, that's a

734
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:14.119
great movie. So the thing that
gets me is that, like, uh,

735
00:46:14.280 --> 00:46:17.039
kind of in society that people most
likely to fall for a scam are

736
00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:22.239
people kind of at the in the
in the struggle zone, sure, you

737
00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:27.400
know, who are just desperate to
make something happen, to change their circumstance

738
00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:30.719
whatever, and they want to like
take care of their family. They want

739
00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:36.480
to you know, they want to
ease off the money pressure and in the

740
00:46:36.519 --> 00:46:39.760
hopes that all the other pressures would
subside, you know, like the family

741
00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:45.199
stress or whatever. Or people who
have a shit ton of money and they're

742
00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:50.480
just looking for you know, some
kind of multiplier that feels good. Yeah.

743
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:52.880
Yeah. People on both ends that, yeah, have less shits to

744
00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:57.159
give. Yeah, yeah, like
what you know, one because they just

745
00:46:57.199 --> 00:47:01.159
have less less shit period and others
because they're so secure that I mean they

746
00:47:01.239 --> 00:47:05.280
might lose some face. But people
at the same time, people like oh

747
00:47:05.320 --> 00:47:07.800
yeah, that was that was a
gutsy gamble man. You know, I

748
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:10.480
haven't watched it yet, but what's
the it's older now, but there's a

749
00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:16.920
concert series that fill through like this
fire festival Festival? Is that similar to

750
00:47:16.920 --> 00:47:21.639
this? I never watched that.
Sound like the I would watch the Hulu

751
00:47:21.719 --> 00:47:24.000
one is way better than the Netflix
one or whatever. Who was leading that,

752
00:47:24.039 --> 00:47:27.360
not y'all rules, Social boys,
jall rule was attached to it.

753
00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:30.519
Yeah, yeah, watch the one
on Hulu because that is that kind of

754
00:47:30.519 --> 00:47:34.159
in this ballpark, it's similar kind
of like yeah, it was very similar.

755
00:47:34.199 --> 00:47:37.800
Yeah, that's what it felt like. And there's another one coming supposed

756
00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:42.159
a leg apparently supposed to do it. But yeah, his whole scam like

757
00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:45.079
on a quick thing is he just
got He just like sold the fake package

758
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:52.599
the pamphlet to celebrities and had and
then basically like was going to hire or

759
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:55.960
pay them to then post. He
paid them to post like the on their

760
00:47:57.000 --> 00:48:00.840
instagrams. You use social media to
push this thing to people to sign up

761
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:02.920
for something that he had no idea
how to actually set up that wasn't actually

762
00:48:02.960 --> 00:48:07.320
moving. Yeah, and uh,
he tried to do it and people started

763
00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:10.119
coming because it was like he had
like three months to do it and it

764
00:48:10.159 --> 00:48:15.880
takes like a year profess three months
on an island that was like uninhibitable,

765
00:48:16.400 --> 00:48:21.119
like literally like it was like it's
impossible to work. There's no clue.

766
00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:27.159
It's amazing documentary on Hulu. One's
really good because they interview I think he's

767
00:48:27.239 --> 00:48:30.039
in it in the in the Hulu
guard running it. Yeah, and like

768
00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:34.960
used to see his ed, to
see his roy his Royness or what's the

769
00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:37.960
other one we did? We work, We work like I had some Roy

770
00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:42.679
in them. Remember the Roy part
where remember when Roy said on camera he

771
00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:44.440
was like, I don't know if
you like really believe this or not.

772
00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:45.400
He's like, I mean I never
knew him one point in my life.

773
00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:50.920
I'd have enough money to run out
a hold a whole uh thirty rooms in

774
00:48:50.920 --> 00:48:53.280
a whole entire hotel. I'm like, you're paying it, but you you're

775
00:48:53.360 --> 00:48:58.159
not. You don't, You're you're
scamming. Yeah, he's got a filter

776
00:48:58.199 --> 00:49:00.480
on his entire life. Yeah,
he had he had come back to the

777
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:04.119
joker. He had the joker laugh. He had no he's weird, a

778
00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:07.880
joker laugh and a weird smile.
Yeah. What was that one part where

779
00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:10.360
like he said something about like,
oh, I never told her that and

780
00:49:10.360 --> 00:49:14.199
they're like, well we have the
Yeah, we have the email or the

781
00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:17.159
texts. There's what you did.
He's like, well, or like kids,

782
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:20.159
Yeah, there's something else like that
too, And then they literally show

783
00:49:20.199 --> 00:49:22.559
the paper where the kids says wrote
something, and he's like, oh,

784
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:24.159
I didn't make them sign anything.
And then they they like flashes to a

785
00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:27.960
piece of paper where a kid signed
a contract to some crazy shit. Yeah,

786
00:49:28.039 --> 00:49:30.559
you're like no, like literally,
there's proof your psycho dude. It's

787
00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:34.360
like three hundred charges against him,
right fila, Yeah, something insane.

788
00:49:34.519 --> 00:49:38.039
He Uh. The story's wild.
The pace of the movie's actually pretty good

789
00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:40.960
because there's so much. There's obviously
answers you want to have, and you

790
00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:44.840
almost want more, which I think
is always better, right you, rather

791
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:47.639
than other documentaries give you too much
of sworking. Yeah, just too much.

792
00:49:47.679 --> 00:49:50.760
Where this you're like, damn,
I wish they could have dove in

793
00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:52.400
here more because he's so crazy,
or the I want to hear more about

794
00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:57.159
the money, or yeah, more
about the recruiting. There's there's semi n

795
00:49:57.199 --> 00:50:00.360
answered stuff, but it's kind of
good unanswered because he's crazy. You're never

796
00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:02.440
going to know the answer. You
don't never know the truth right, because

797
00:50:02.440 --> 00:50:07.599
not everything was filmed, but the
length was good because some of these ships

798
00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:10.480
go on fucking forever. The food, remember, he just like they wouldn't

799
00:50:10.519 --> 00:50:14.119
eat the mac and cheese because it
was so awful looking. So picture of

800
00:50:14.119 --> 00:50:16.840
the picture was so funny. Even
the mom said something like I didn't know

801
00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:21.079
if that was oatmeal or oakrah or
what the fuck it was. It's like,

802
00:50:21.159 --> 00:50:22.119
yeah, that should look crazy,
and they would just like heat it

803
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:25.679
up the next day. It looked
like days and days. It looked like

804
00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:29.880
the cream of corn, like a
week old. Dude, it looked really.

805
00:50:29.960 --> 00:50:31.199
That was a really sad scene where
he's like goes to the kids doors

806
00:50:31.239 --> 00:50:34.039
like ah, you good anything.
He's like, dude, I'm hungry.

807
00:50:34.039 --> 00:50:36.599
Man. Yeah, they just cut
They don't really care then, Like,

808
00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:39.480
dude, those poor kids, man. I think that's when they cut to

809
00:50:39.880 --> 00:50:44.039
getting them to steal from the grocery
shop. They're all running around its right,

810
00:50:44.159 --> 00:50:47.039
bags of ice. They should have
like he should have gotten some kind

811
00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:51.000
of charges for like child and neglects. No sers, like this guy should

812
00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:52.199
be in fucking jail. That's what
I'm saying. Like the rules of like

813
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:54.920
starting a fake school and all that, Okay, I understand the semantics there,

814
00:50:54.920 --> 00:50:58.079
but like, no, he's taken
like at least some of them had

815
00:50:58.079 --> 00:51:00.480
to be under eighteen. Yeah,
because like I guess, if you're over

816
00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:02.480
eighteen, you're consenting to right.
I could say, hey, Dean,

817
00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:05.239
beat the fuck out of me,
and if I consent, you can bet

818
00:51:05.280 --> 00:51:07.599
the fuck out of me. So, but if they're under age and he

819
00:51:07.639 --> 00:51:09.519
takes him from his parents and he
scams him and he doesn't feed him,

820
00:51:09.599 --> 00:51:13.079
like there's yeah, there's definitely got
to be some jail time. How is

821
00:51:13.119 --> 00:51:15.880
this guy? I don't know because
the other ones were like fraud stuff,

822
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:21.119
but this is like criminal criminal we
should call a lawyer. I don't understand

823
00:51:21.159 --> 00:51:23.920
it. Yeah, I read something
and not having in front of front of

824
00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:28.960
me, Now what the actual situation
with with him now is because he thinks

825
00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:31.519
you have to have a season.
Well that's that's what That's what it's in

826
00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:36.079
the documentary. But that's not happening
for sure, it would be it would

827
00:51:36.079 --> 00:51:38.920
be technically happening right now. Right
it is a high school football on right

828
00:51:38.960 --> 00:51:43.719
now? Uh yeah, same as
college right, the same schedule, same

829
00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:46.159
same time of year, time time
of year, Mike, yeah, uh

830
00:51:46.239 --> 00:51:51.400
yeah, probably started in August.
Yeah, so if technically if he was

831
00:51:51.639 --> 00:51:53.320
going, he's going, Yeah,
there's just no fucking way though, playing

832
00:51:53.360 --> 00:51:59.079
one game this same it's not even
possible that ship was crazy, dude,

833
00:51:59.199 --> 00:52:00.840
one of the craziest stories I've ever
heard, Like as far as in the

834
00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:05.239
sports world and how new it is, you think crazy shit would be less

835
00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:08.119
likely now with social media, you
would think, But but he in some

836
00:52:08.159 --> 00:52:13.079
ways use social media to be crazier. Yes, right, because that's the

837
00:52:13.320 --> 00:52:15.360
yeah, because like, yeah,
in the eighties, you know, and

838
00:52:15.480 --> 00:52:17.199
no one knows, you know,
you're just creeping around on paper. You

839
00:52:17.239 --> 00:52:20.880
can make fake ship. He made
a fake check. But he's like,

840
00:52:20.920 --> 00:52:22.639
it wasn't fake check. It was
the real number. They're like, you

841
00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:23.679
went the fucking keikos. He's like, but it was the real number.

842
00:52:24.119 --> 00:52:28.079
Yeah, we are this crazy period. He tried to he tried to gaslight

843
00:52:28.119 --> 00:52:30.119
the person. Like he does that
whole you know, when he's lying.

844
00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:32.840
So he's so he's so animated when
he lies, he does like the whole

845
00:52:32.920 --> 00:52:37.000
like, yeah, like you're crazy, Like, what do you mean that's

846
00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:38.199
totally normal? You just like I
just change the name on it. What's

847
00:52:38.199 --> 00:52:42.079
wrong with you? That? Which
like it is normal? Sometimes to prove

848
00:52:42.119 --> 00:52:44.880
it right, you would show you
would like give them the check and then

849
00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:47.199
they would copy it and give it
to you as almost like a receipt.

850
00:52:47.239 --> 00:52:52.480
But like, no, you're literally
just making fake money. That yeah,

851
00:52:52.480 --> 00:52:55.199
that's crazy. I mean in reality, banks don't have to accept him.

852
00:52:55.320 --> 00:53:00.239
But you can write a check on
anything as long as it's got the the

853
00:53:00.400 --> 00:53:06.159
account number another loophole and your signature
whatever whatever. Doesn't even have to have

854
00:53:06.239 --> 00:53:08.960
a you know, a check number
any of that kind of stuff. If

855
00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:12.519
the bank is willing to accept that. Not every bank is going to do

856
00:53:12.599 --> 00:53:15.559
that. He just knows all these
little things, the little tricks. Yeah,

857
00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:17.400
yeah, he's smart. He's not
an idiot. No, he's not

858
00:53:17.440 --> 00:53:21.679
an idiot, but he's like,
I don't know, he's like chaotic evil.

859
00:53:21.880 --> 00:53:23.360
No, he's evil. He's he's
like even the road tissry thing,

860
00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:28.000
that's like that's smart, that's very
smart. It's bad it's your evil,

861
00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:32.159
but he's not dumb. Yeah,
and then the whole I mean, what

862
00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:37.199
about like what's the repercussions of putting
these kids unprepared in front of these kids,

863
00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:39.599
like them getting hurt and him just
like the guy's acels everywhere. Maybe

864
00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:43.960
the kid was rolling over holding his
acel. He kept like grabbing him and

865
00:53:43.960 --> 00:53:46.119
like turning him back over onto his
back, like the one yelling at him.

866
00:53:46.199 --> 00:53:49.519
One kid said, my niece snapped, he said, does it hurt?

867
00:53:49.559 --> 00:53:51.559
He's like not really, He's like, you can play. Kid ends

868
00:53:51.599 --> 00:53:54.400
up having a ripped acel. Dude, and the other kid broke his ankle.

869
00:53:54.440 --> 00:53:57.480
That wasn't even shouldn't have been court. Remember yet in that game he

870
00:53:57.519 --> 00:54:02.280
had two kids that were like receivers
or cornerbacks and he had playing quarterback.

871
00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:06.280
Yeah, it's just the weakest looking
throw I've ever seen. Oh, they

872
00:54:06.280 --> 00:54:07.719
were just kidding. That shouldn't even
have been on that should they should have

873
00:54:07.719 --> 00:54:13.079
just like cut the feed. But
now they have to sell commercials. Yeah,

874
00:54:13.119 --> 00:54:16.320
commercials. I'm trying to find out
where that what I was reading about.

875
00:54:17.199 --> 00:54:19.960
I wish you I would have saw
that game live. And it's been

876
00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:22.480
so confused. Some people did,
right, A lot of people they were

877
00:54:22.480 --> 00:54:24.920
probably so confused. They were probably
like, how did this? How was

878
00:54:24.960 --> 00:54:29.320
this on TV? Yeah, they're
throwing the ball off someone's helmet. They

879
00:54:29.360 --> 00:54:31.559
didn't really bring the game plan today, Like, what's the excuse. He's

880
00:54:31.599 --> 00:54:36.039
just like on the sidelines just like
holding an empty clipboard. He doesn't know

881
00:54:36.039 --> 00:54:39.239
what they call he's drinking the gatorade's
shrinking. He's just sipping the gatorade on

882
00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:43.159
the sideline instead of coaching, because
they don't have any of their own drinks.

883
00:54:43.159 --> 00:54:45.920
So it was probably provided. Yeah, that was the only nutrition they've

884
00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:52.639
had, is provided by ESPN,
probably so. Uh SB Nation had an

885
00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:57.000
article on this and they had the
ten most shocking revelations. I guess maybe

886
00:54:57.039 --> 00:55:00.880
we'll just run through this and sort
of in conclude lusion here. Uh Roy

887
00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:06.079
Johnson interned with the New York Jets
under Belichick and Bill Parcels. That was

888
00:55:06.119 --> 00:55:08.000
pretty huge. That's why I thought
this was going to go somewhere good.

889
00:55:08.079 --> 00:55:13.639
Yeah. Yeah. Entire plan for
Bishops Sickamore was basically an insurance scam.

890
00:55:13.639 --> 00:55:16.920
When Michael was referring to earlier.
Upon learning it would take one hundred and

891
00:55:16.920 --> 00:55:21.800
fifty million dollars in funding to build
a school and a sort sports program,

892
00:55:21.880 --> 00:55:24.199
probably a lot more than that,
Johnson formulated an insurance scheme to get funding.

893
00:55:24.239 --> 00:55:30.159
Involved signing church parishioners up for life
insurance policies with wording that left the

894
00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:34.679
percentage of their policy on death to
the school, not the church, but

895
00:55:34.760 --> 00:55:37.519
the schools like someone So someone has
to die though for him to get that

896
00:55:37.559 --> 00:55:42.440
money. Yeah, yeah, I
mean I probably wouldn't killed. That's a

897
00:55:42.559 --> 00:55:45.840
long games what I'm saying, I
don't know. And depending on churches,

898
00:55:45.880 --> 00:55:49.599
you know, sometimes there's some a
lot of old folks along were targeting to

899
00:55:49.760 --> 00:55:54.159
older people. Yeah, but the
premiums on life insurance for if you're old

900
00:55:55.239 --> 00:56:00.199
are crazy unless you can find some
company that's willing to take a low premium.

901
00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:04.119
And he wasn't big, he wasn't
known to be in Richeria. No.

902
00:56:04.800 --> 00:56:09.920
No, Johnson has a really disturbing
way of viewing athletes. Revealing theme

903
00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:15.159
throughout Roy Johnson's interviews in BS High
is that he's totally unhinged. Early in

904
00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:19.360
the documentary, explains that part of
the appeal of being a coach or a

905
00:56:19.360 --> 00:56:22.480
general manager is being the men in
charge of gladiators. Later, when he's

906
00:56:22.519 --> 00:56:27.280
probed about why he didn't put a
stop to his scheme when the funding ran

907
00:56:27.320 --> 00:56:30.639
out, he quips, I'm magneto. These are my mutants and I'm fighting

908
00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:32.760
for them. I saw that part. He's like, he's not professor X,

909
00:56:34.079 --> 00:56:38.000
He's Magneto. I clocked that when
he said it. Bishops six more

910
00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:45.000
were targeted and preyed on kids with
shaky family lives. Everybody was ripped off

911
00:56:45.039 --> 00:56:49.800
by Roy Johnson. He's a predator. Yeah. His video team sold on

912
00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:53.480
the idea that they'd become communicative communications
department for his fake high school. Were

913
00:56:53.519 --> 00:57:00.159
paid sixty dollars for gas in exchange
for six months of work, and eight

914
00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:05.639
hundred dollars. Paintball outing for the
players designed to project wealth was unpaid,

915
00:57:06.480 --> 00:57:09.760
and player housing was booked on net
ninety terms and hotels and never paid.

916
00:57:09.880 --> 00:57:15.760
Okay, it was cool. Who's
going paintballing to project wealth? Was the

917
00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:20.960
paintball fucking things? Eight hundred dollars
just runs team bonding and runs doesn't fucking

918
00:57:21.039 --> 00:57:27.639
this din and dashes paintball small business
shooting scoot. You know how much,

919
00:57:27.719 --> 00:57:30.559
no many fucking weekends or how many
outings it try it takes for that company

920
00:57:30.559 --> 00:57:34.840
to make that that paintball money.
Like like that's not a high profit industry.

921
00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:37.320
It's just like some random young guy. He's just trying to make it,

922
00:57:37.400 --> 00:57:42.119
just doing honest work. I get
more, like the retention on someone

923
00:57:42.159 --> 00:57:45.840
playing paintball is so low you go
like once and then like that's it for

924
00:57:45.880 --> 00:57:50.199
most people, very small percentage,
like continue to play week and week out.

925
00:57:50.679 --> 00:57:52.559
So for that guy to like use
up all that paint and all that

926
00:57:52.599 --> 00:57:57.920
rental and all like all that that
that's a huge fucking loss for that guy.

927
00:57:58.440 --> 00:58:00.079
The next one is always scammed grocers, sor as we talked about that

928
00:58:00.360 --> 00:58:04.480
this this part, I think we
haven't really touched on it, and I

929
00:58:04.480 --> 00:58:08.760
think it's I think it's critical,
uh, their ineptitude mask the fraud when

930
00:58:08.800 --> 00:58:13.119
it comes to age, because he
had these big kids who were up to

931
00:58:13.239 --> 00:58:16.199
twenty three years old, but they
were so awful. No one ever called

932
00:58:16.239 --> 00:58:21.920
that into questions if they're if they're
actually Alabama talent top the bottom and they're

933
00:58:21.960 --> 00:58:24.559
shitting on high school kids, this
this gets shut down right away, right

934
00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:30.440
twenty three year olds playing against high
school sixteen year olds. That's such a

935
00:58:30.519 --> 00:58:35.320
huge gas and they're they're ripping a
seals. I almost now feel bad making

936
00:58:35.360 --> 00:58:37.960
fun of the players because they already
got scammed by this dickhead, but like

937
00:58:37.079 --> 00:58:42.360
they're getting shipped all by sixteen year
olds. Yeah, that's not good either.

938
00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:45.519
No, that that probably broke the
pride more than all this fucking scams.

939
00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:47.000
Well part of it too. I
mean if they were if if if

940
00:58:47.000 --> 00:58:52.000
it was handled like a real team, if they had real practices with with

941
00:58:52.119 --> 00:58:54.760
real game plans, real coaches and
all this stuff, they might have been

942
00:58:54.760 --> 00:58:59.800
better. Maybe. Who knows,
though there are some freaky fucking seniors and

943
00:58:59.840 --> 00:59:00.960
high school right, Like if they're
not talented, That's why I wanted to

944
00:59:01.000 --> 00:59:04.440
know, Like, are these kids
actually talented? Because some did end up

945
00:59:04.519 --> 00:59:07.000
Louisville. But if the rest of
them are, you know, jamokes,

946
00:59:07.239 --> 00:59:09.480
Yeah, and you're playing the best
of the best, they're still not gonna

947
00:59:09.840 --> 00:59:12.840
you're gonna get shit. I'd be
like me going out there just because I'm

948
00:59:12.840 --> 00:59:15.199
older doesn't mean ship bro. I
went to a played a pro am.

949
00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:17.159
I was twenty one, probably the
best shape, best basketball shape, best

950
00:59:17.159 --> 00:59:20.719
mind shape. I was in my
prime. I was killing, Like I'm

951
00:59:20.760 --> 00:59:24.639
playing NBA Cats as kid Mike Bryson. He's fucking soft junior or senior in

952
00:59:24.719 --> 00:59:29.000
high school, full right to you. UCSB just comes and dunks all over

953
00:59:29.039 --> 00:59:30.000
mine, you know, like they're
like, yeah, go guard him.

954
00:59:30.039 --> 00:59:31.559
I was like, oh, this
little kid, you know, he's six

955
00:59:31.639 --> 00:59:34.760
eight, but he's a kid.
I could tell no facial just shit,

956
00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:37.000
it's all over. I'm like,
all right, well he playing the nb

957
00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:38.519
Yeah, you know, he's a
sixteen year old a head of the NBA.

958
00:59:38.760 --> 00:59:45.039
I'm fucking Mario and Luigi twenty one
in my prime. There's levels yeah,

959
00:59:45.119 --> 00:59:49.159
yeah, no kidding. The other
ones we've started touched on, they

960
00:59:49.320 --> 00:59:52.159
just didn't just destroy them mentally and
physically, but also financially. Yeah.

961
00:59:52.280 --> 00:59:55.719
Yeah. If if they're you know, eviction stuff, and if they took

962
00:59:55.719 --> 01:00:00.519
out loans in their own name at
like seventeen, they're fucked. That does

963
01:00:00.559 --> 01:00:02.519
like last, that could last ten
years of fun. Well, that one

964
01:00:02.599 --> 01:00:07.559
kid they were interviewing and they told
the kid on air or on the video

965
01:00:07.639 --> 01:00:13.119
that he has a PPP two he
had in his name. Didn't even know.

966
01:00:13.599 --> 01:00:15.639
Yeah, fucked, Yeah, I
didn't even know. Because this kid

967
01:00:15.679 --> 01:00:20.840
is he used their information, he
fraudulently signed him, probably exactly. And

968
01:00:20.840 --> 01:00:25.000
then the biggest shocker that this,
there's just no remorse at all. There's

969
01:00:25.119 --> 01:00:30.639
no no from him or his other
coach guy. I don't know his other

970
01:00:30.719 --> 01:00:36.320
coach guy could have been fine in
another circumstances, but he committed to this.

971
01:00:36.559 --> 01:00:37.599
Why is he still around? And
he committed to the bid at the

972
01:00:37.719 --> 01:00:42.639
end. Yeah, and he's in
the fucking documentary, Like I'd be so

973
01:00:42.679 --> 01:00:45.280
ashamed I'd moved to South America and
changed my name, still wearing. Yeah,

974
01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:47.639
he's bought in. If he's going
on the documentary, you're still on

975
01:00:47.800 --> 01:00:53.039
the merch. He's obviously got some
gear issues as well, because you're committed

976
01:00:53.079 --> 01:00:57.039
to the bit. Yeah. He
told you to look at like, look

977
01:00:57.079 --> 01:00:59.679
at any cult leader, like this
guy could easily start a cult. No,

978
01:01:00.039 --> 01:01:00.280
yeah, you know what I mean, like, yeah you did,

979
01:01:00.360 --> 01:01:04.400
Yeah, you did. Yeah,
they're gonna be his loyal people that are

980
01:01:04.440 --> 01:01:07.119
thinking like everybody else is crazy and
this guy's right. I do wish it

981
01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:08.760
would have talked some of the parents
a little more. Yeah, they only

982
01:01:08.760 --> 01:01:12.760
talked about two one. Yeah,
and one was like yeah, if they

983
01:01:12.800 --> 01:01:15.280
would have dug in there, you
would have really probably saw some emotion.

984
01:01:15.440 --> 01:01:17.360
Two moms. No, dad's right. Yeah, I don't think I saw

985
01:01:17.360 --> 01:01:21.639
any Dad's well. Yeah, that's
just that's a whole other problem. That's

986
01:01:21.639 --> 01:01:23.199
a whole other issue. That's half
the reason why they were there. Yeah,

987
01:01:23.400 --> 01:01:27.280
they didn't have anybody to guide them
in the right direction. That's what

988
01:01:27.360 --> 01:01:30.360
the That was the string of the
story. Right now that he took advantage

989
01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:34.280
of the dad coach relationship to some
young men that were looking for some help.

990
01:01:34.320 --> 01:01:36.480
They said, like, I told
these kids some dark things out of

991
01:01:36.519 --> 01:01:37.960
you. Guys don't even know.
And I would say to get people motivated,

992
01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:42.159
you gotta say some horrible things.
He was probably like going low,

993
01:01:42.320 --> 01:01:45.039
Yeah, probably so, yeah,
he's a psycho. All right, let's

994
01:01:45.119 --> 01:01:51.239
rate this puppy. I think that
that the rating scale should be road killed

995
01:01:51.320 --> 01:01:57.639
geese. Man. I might call
like like a four four killed geese.

996
01:01:58.639 --> 01:02:01.599
The story is just so crazy,
Like you can think about it after the

997
01:02:01.639 --> 01:02:06.000
documentary and you still realize it's crazier. You know, sometimes when you when

998
01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:07.280
you talk about it or you see
it first's like, oh that was kind

999
01:02:07.280 --> 01:02:08.679
of crazy, then you forget about
it. But this one was like,

1000
01:02:08.719 --> 01:02:13.199
actually pretty fucking nuts. And it's
so modern, right, it's so modern.

1001
01:02:13.519 --> 01:02:15.559
It was really interesting. And then
the pace of it's pretty good.

1002
01:02:15.880 --> 01:02:17.920
It dabbles in football, dabbles and
kids, It dabbles in business at dables,

1003
01:02:17.960 --> 01:02:21.119
in church, it dabbles in all
these things. So I thought it

1004
01:02:21.159 --> 01:02:23.079
was really good, pretty good.
Yeah, I'm gonna double down on the

1005
01:02:23.079 --> 01:02:27.159
four or geeseers. Yeah, I
don't know what would be a five at

1006
01:02:27.199 --> 01:02:29.960
this point. But like I think, chorus, I don't know if you

1007
01:02:29.960 --> 01:02:32.760
did Icarus with this, I've seen
it anytime. I loved. Chorus is

1008
01:02:32.800 --> 01:02:37.599
good. That's a high, high, high praise. That's like one of

1009
01:02:37.639 --> 01:02:39.400
the best. Yeah, I agree
with that. And last dance is pretty

1010
01:02:39.440 --> 01:02:42.719
good. If you're a basketball family, you have to do Yeah, it's

1011
01:02:42.760 --> 01:02:45.400
so good. Last dance is so
good. That's to rewatch it. But

1012
01:02:45.559 --> 01:02:47.159
it's like a four to five five
to me, to me obvious. The

1013
01:02:47.239 --> 01:02:50.480
Jordan, Yeah, they're just the
aura of Jordan. It's so good.

1014
01:02:50.519 --> 01:02:53.400
The interviews are good. Yeah,
that's true. I'm gonna geese Jam.

1015
01:02:53.440 --> 01:02:59.159
I would say okay on story purely, just on the story existing in the

1016
01:02:59.159 --> 01:03:06.320
world, that's a five stories story, sure, but I would I would

1017
01:03:06.400 --> 01:03:09.360
also say four. On the execution
it was, it was well executed,

1018
01:03:09.480 --> 01:03:14.639
it was it moved fast, it
didn't lag at any point. If he

1019
01:03:14.840 --> 01:03:16.920
wasn't repeat itself, no, yeah, yeah, moved on because there's so

1020
01:03:16.920 --> 01:03:20.679
many things to touch on. If
he wasn't psycho though he doesn't do that

1021
01:03:20.760 --> 01:03:23.519
interview no, no, like,
there's no like he's psycho. That's why

1022
01:03:23.519 --> 01:03:27.719
I know he has real narcissistic traits
because he knows going in the interview,

1023
01:03:27.840 --> 01:03:30.719
or he to him going in the
interview. This is a glorified story,

1024
01:03:31.079 --> 01:03:36.000
right, he's good in this movie. Yeah, right, because any other

1025
01:03:36.039 --> 01:03:38.079
person with morals knows that you're about
to get flamed for being an idiot when

1026
01:03:38.079 --> 01:03:42.480
you're not agreeing to the interview.
What's the rating with him not in it?

1027
01:03:42.679 --> 01:03:46.840
Yes, probably think it really brings
it down because you can't see that

1028
01:03:46.880 --> 01:03:51.079
it's true. Well, then it's
just a victim story. Yeah. But

1029
01:03:51.159 --> 01:03:52.800
here you're like, no, dude, you're telling me what you want me

1030
01:03:52.840 --> 01:03:55.639
to hear, and I still know
you're lying. Yeah. Well it tells

1031
01:03:55.679 --> 01:04:01.079
you that Michael Strahan is uh smart
enough to know that he's got to grease

1032
01:04:01.159 --> 01:04:05.440
this guy. Yeah, he's probably
shoot him funny text to Yeah, to

1033
01:04:05.519 --> 01:04:10.920
keep him on the hook for sure, killed it, expose himself the way

1034
01:04:10.960 --> 01:04:15.199
he did. Yeah, And to
not not be willing to say, I

1035
01:04:15.239 --> 01:04:19.880
mean he said I'm the what do
you say, the most honest liar?

1036
01:04:20.039 --> 01:04:24.880
Yeah, something like that, some
some bullshit like that, some backwards joker.

1037
01:04:25.079 --> 01:04:30.360
Yeah. Yeah. It just to
not realize that you're the villain of

1038
01:04:30.360 --> 01:04:39.199
the story, or to maybe revel
in being the villain. Yeah, half

1039
01:04:39.239 --> 01:04:41.840
and half, half and half.
Yeah, because I still think he thinks

1040
01:04:41.840 --> 01:04:45.880
he's good. Yeah, well he's
even like he even said it. The

1041
01:04:45.239 --> 01:04:48.480
one part he was like, you
know what they say in business is even

1042
01:04:48.519 --> 01:04:50.519
if you don't have the money,
you do all the things that people have

1043
01:04:50.559 --> 01:04:55.920
the money. That's like, first
off, that's not true. Yeah,

1044
01:04:56.000 --> 01:04:59.039
that's not the case. It's sad, but that is kind of how social

1045
01:04:59.039 --> 01:05:02.239
media projects rich people. Correct.
Yeah, yeah, habits are rich people

1046
01:05:02.320 --> 01:05:05.599
and what I interviewed ten rich people
and this is what they do, and

1047
01:05:05.840 --> 01:05:09.440
you know, yeah, it doesn't
work. It's just a bullshit thing.

1048
01:05:09.639 --> 01:05:15.360
It doesn't work. It's because it
sounds accomplishable. It's it's like a two

1049
01:05:15.880 --> 01:05:19.280
two broad expansion of dress for the
job you want to have, right.

1050
01:05:19.360 --> 01:05:23.599
Yeah, you can wear pieces,
Yeah there's pieces. Yeah, there's pieces.

1051
01:05:23.719 --> 01:05:25.400
You can wear a suitor every day
to high school. But you're just

1052
01:05:25.400 --> 01:05:27.800
gonna be that weird kid that wears
a suitor d high school. And also

1053
01:05:27.920 --> 01:05:30.239
action to be what you want to
do, right, And what did these

1054
01:05:30.239 --> 01:05:32.480
billionaires do ten years ago is what
you need to look at, not what

1055
01:05:32.480 --> 01:05:36.360
they do right now. Because now
he's flying a private chet and now he's

1056
01:05:36.360 --> 01:05:39.840
not doing that, he still brought
Yeah, exactly, don't do a shit

1057
01:05:40.079 --> 01:05:44.079
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Keviniquilo's at Dean Stores. I was k

1058
01:05:44.639 --> 01:05:47.320
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